New Black Panther Party & Quanell X- shut down @ the JOE HORN pro JOE HORN RALLY

December 3, 2007 by Don Of Dons  
Filed under .Voice of The Hood

New Black Panther Party & Quanell X- shut down @ the JOE HORN pro JOE HORN RALLY ……. in case you aren’t familiar with the case check inside ….and listen to his 911 call …. “im gonna kill em” ….. “your dead” ….

(CBS) The 911 call came from a Pasadena, Tex., resident, who alerted police to two burglary suspects on a neighbor’s property. Before he hung up, two men were dead by his hand.

Joe Horn, 61, told the dispatcher what he intended to do: Walk out his front door with a shotgun.

“I’ve got a shotgun,” Horn said, according to a tape of the 911 call. “Do you want me to stop them?”

“Nope, don’t do that – ain’t no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?” the dispatcher responded.

“Hurry up man, catch these guys, will you? ‘Cause I’m ain’t gonna let ‘em go, I’m gonna be honest with you, I’m not gonna let ‘em go. I’m not gonna let ‘em get away with this —-.”

Shortly after, Horn said he sees one suspect was standing in front of his house, looking at it from the street.

“I don’t know if they’re armed or not. I know they got a crowbar ’cause that’s what they broke the windows with. … Man, this is scary, I can’t believe this is happening in this neighborhood.”

He gets more agitated. The dispatcher asks if he can see the suspects but they had retreated into the target’s house, out of view: “I can go out the front [to look], but if I go out the front I’m bringing my shotgun with me, I swear to God. I am not gonna let ‘em get away with this, I can’t take a chance on getting killed over this, OK? I’m gonna shoot, I’m gonna shoot.”

“Stay inside the house and don’t go out there, OK?” the dispatcher said. “I know you’re pissed off, I know what you’re feeling, but it’s not worth shooting somebody over this, OK?”

“I don’t want to,” Horn said, “but I mean if I go out there, you know, to see what the hell is going on, what choice am I gonna have?

“No, I don’t want you to go out there, I just asked if you could see anything out there.”

The dispatcher asks if a vehicle could be seen; Horn said no. The dispatcher again says Horn should stay inside the house.

Almost five minutes into the call, police had not arrived.

“I can’t see if [the suspects are] getting away or not,” Horn said.

Horn told the dispatcher that he doesn’t know the neighbors well, unlike those living on the other side of his home. “I can assure you if it had been their house, I would have already done something, because I know them very well,” he said.
Dispatcher: “I want you to listen to me carefully, OK?”

Horn: “Yes?”

Dispatcher: “I got ultras coming out there. I don’t want you to go outside that house. And I don’t want you to have that gun in your hand when those officers are poking around out there.”

Horn: “I understand that, OK, but I have a right to protect myself too, sir, and you understand that. And the laws have been changed in this country since September the First and you know it and I know it.”

Dispatcher: “I understand.”

Horn: “I have a right to protect myself …”

Dispatcher: “I’m …”

Horn: “And a shotgun is a legal weapon, it’s not an illegal weapon.”

Dispatcher: “No, it’s not, I’m not saying that, I’m just not wanting you to …”

Horn: “OK, he’s coming out the window right now, I gotta go, buddy. I’m sorry, but he’s coming out the window. ”

Dispatcher: “No, don’t, don’t go out the door, Mister Horn. Mister Horn…”

Horn: “They just stole something, I’m going out to look for ‘em, I’m sorry, I ain’t letting them get away with this —-. They stole something, they got a bag of stuff. I’m doing it!”

Dispatcher: “Mister, do not go outside the house.”

Horn: “I’m sorry, this ain’t right, buddy.”

Dispatcher: “You gonna get yourself shot if you go outside that house with a gun, I don’t care what you think.”

Horn: “You wanna make a bet?”

Dispatcher: “Stay in the house.”

Horn: “There, one of them’s getting away!

Dispatcher: “That’s alright, property’s not something worth killing someone over. OK? Don’t go out the house, don’t be shooting nobody. I know you’re pissed and you’re frustrated but don’t do it.”

Horn: “They got a bag of loot.”

Dispatcher: “OK. How big is the bag?” He then talks off, relaying the information.

Dispatcher: “Which way are they going?”

Horn: “I can’t … I’m going outside. I’ll find out.”

Dispatcher: “I don’t want you going outside, Mister…”

Horn: “Well, here it goes buddy, you hear the shotgun clicking and I’m going.”

Dispatcher: “Don’t go outside.”
On the tape of the 911 call, the shotgun can be heard being cocked and Horn can be heard going outside and confronting someone.

“Boom! You’re dead!” he shouts. A loud bang is heard, then a shotgun being cocked and fired again, and then again.

Then Horn is back on the phone:
“Get the law over here quick. I’ve now, get, one of them’s in the front yard over there, he’s down, he almost run down the street. I had no choice. They came in the front yard with me, man, I had no choice! … Get somebody over here quick, man.”

Dispatcher: “Mister Horn, are you out there right now?”

Horn: “No, I am inside the house, I went back in the house. Man, they come right in my yard, I didn’t know what the — they was gonna do, I shot ‘em, OK?”

Dispatcher: “Did you shoot somebody?

Horn: “Yes, I did, the cops are here right now.”

Dispatcher: “Where are you right now?”

Horn: “I’m inside the house. …”

Dispatcher: “Mister Horn, put that gun down before you shoot an officer of mine. I’ve got several officers out there without uniforms on.”

Horn: “I am in the front yard right now. I am …”

Dispatcher: “Put that gun down! There’s officers out there without uniforms on. Do not shoot anybody else, do you understand me? I’ve got police out there…”

Horn: “I understand, I understand. I am out in the front yard waving my hand right now.”

Dispatcher: “You don’t have a gun with you, do you?

Horn: “No, no, no.”

Dispatcher: “You see a uniformed officer? Now lay down on the ground and don’t do nothing else.”

Yelling is heard.

Dispatcher: “Lay down on the ground, Mister Horn. Do what the officers tell you to do right now.”
Two days later, Horn released a statement through an attorney.

“The events of that day will weigh heavily on me for the rest of my life,” it said. “My thoughts go out to the loved ones of the deceased.”

The identities of the men killed were released Friday.

They are Miguel Antonio Dejesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30. Official records show that each of them had a prior arrest in Harris County for drug offenses.

The men were reportedly shot at a distance of less than 15 feet.

A woman who lives nearby who asked not to be identified told CBS News affiliate KHOU correspondent Rucks Russell that she always saw Horn as a grandfather figure. “He is the guardian of the neighborhood,” she said. “He takes care of all our kids. If we ever need anything, we call him.”

But according to Tom Lambright, Horn’s attorney and a friend for more than four decades, he’s the one in need now. “He just needs everyone to know he’s not a villain, he’s not a bad guy,” Lambright said.

He went on to say that Horn voluntarily gave an extensive video statement to police immediately following the shooting.

Horn was not taken into custody after the shooting. A Harris County grand jury will decide if charges are to be filed.

Lambright says Horn acted in complete and total self defense and has nothing to hide.

Local opinion has been passionate on both sides of the shooting.

One letter to the Houston Chronicle said, “He didn’t shoot them in the legs, to make sure they did not run away, or hold them at gunpoint until police arrived. No, he was judge, jury and executioner.”

Another letter writer praised Horn, saying, “Where does the line form to pin a medal on Joe Horn? I want to get in line.” Another wrote, “Let’s get rid of the police force and just hire Joe Horn!”

Support for Horn was also running about 2-1 in an online survey of readers on the KHOU Web site.

The incident may prove a test for a new law recently passed in Texas which expands the right of citizens to use deadly force.

Under Texas law, people may use deadly force to protect their own property or to stop arson, burglary, robbery, theft or criminal mischief at night.

But the legislator who authored the “castle doctrine” bill told the Chronicle it was never intended to apply to a neighbor’s property, to prompt a “‘Law West of the Pecos’ mentality or action,” said Republican Sen. Jeff Wentworth. “You’re supposed to be able to defend your own home, your own family, in your house, your place of business or your motor vehicle.”


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17 Comments on "New Black Panther Party & Quanell X- shut down @ the JOE HORN pro JOE HORN RALLY"

  1. gmoney313 on Mon, 3rd Dec 2007 6:51 pm 

    damn this guy aint not locked up. thats premeditated murder, the evidence is all on tape. i bet he beats that shit though.

  2. jus on Mon, 3rd Dec 2007 10:10 pm 

    They should have locked him up for murder. If it was a black man that had done something like that, they probably would’ve shot him first or hung him being the fact that this took place in texas…

  3. napps126 on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 7:01 am 

    wow…thats crazy…i’m not saying what he did was right but it sounded like he was on the phone with the police for more than 15 minutes….

  4. napps126 on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 7:13 am 

    be real talk…its a burglary…them dudes didnt harm anyone so really there was no reason to shoot…

  5. SeF on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 7:19 am 

    It’s crazy because it wasn’t his home…Why couldn’t he just wait for the police?

  6. h00dlum on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 11:43 am 

    at first I was going to put another comment but I re-read this and these cats was on someone elses lawn…yeah mind ya own biz…if it was his own lawn I wouldn’t have blamed him…

  7. Kwebo on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 12:10 pm 

    fuckin crackers get away with everything

  8. daruler on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 2:34 pm 

    that shit was fucked up. he had nothing to do with what was going on. it wasn’t like someone else was bein’ held hostage or something like that. that old foo watch too many action movies and thought he was bruce willis or somebody. i ain’t sayin’ what they deceased did wasn’t wrong but the old man had nothin’ to do with it.

  9. Tim on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 6:44 pm 

    yall need to shut the fuck up and stop making this a race thing

    its nobodies fault but the robbers, they tried to fuck someone over and well… they got fucked

  10. gangstagangsta on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 7:55 pm 

    self defense is when someone attacks u he just wanted to shoot some “niggers”

  11. pinky on Tue, 4th Dec 2007 8:40 pm 

    Its so true, had that been a black man he would be brought up on manslaughter charges. i feel that everyone is a victim no winners, all losers. they lost their lives now he is about to lose his freedom.

  12. Zack on Wed, 5th Dec 2007 9:48 am 

    Nice shootin’ Tex. Rob, rape, break in or come onto my property and make me feel threatened and you will get your butt blown off. Nobody cares what color these losers were, people are just sick and tired of lowlife. 30 years old is a ripe old age for a career criminal thug. Good riddance, they did their family, community and Country no good

  13. Spellz on Wed, 5th Dec 2007 1:37 pm 

    whats with this race thing horn never mention they were black he did not care about their race he did the right thing in my view if anyone is in my hood trying to fuck someone over i would do the same the families in my hood all have kids and who knows what those fuckers could of done if there were people in the house that night so fuck off

  14. Elton on Tue, 11th Dec 2007 3:44 pm 

    The facts are these two guys were THEIVES! I have lived in Houston all my life. Quanell X is never trying to unit the community. His plan is to seperate. You have to protect your community! If these two guys would have been hard working citizens, like the one’s they were robbing, they would still be alive! This has nothing to do with race! Quanell makes a living off dividing. It is time people stand up for what is right. This issue should be left to the facts, leave out the race and you have a man that shoot two men who were robbing people in his community. If more people stood up, there would be less crime!

  15. dana on Wed, 12th Dec 2007 8:09 pm 

    quanell 10 is trying to turn this into a race thing! It is not…it is how it should be…we look out for our neighbors! We did not invite quanell 10 nor his compadraes into Pasadena. We do not need his racial bigotry. Pasadena does not have a race problem. And we do not need one. Everytime quanell comes to Pasadena we will be there to shut him down! it has nothing to do with the fact that he’s black…it is because he is trying to get free publicity from and he is a hater! He hates anyone who is not black! So quanell 10….stay out of Pasadena and tell your boy that tried to hit me with that sign…next time I will make a citizens arrest!

  16. ... on Thu, 10th Jul 2008 6:14 pm 

    Those guys deserved it. Who cares about color, thats just an excuse. If I saw someone robbin some of my friends I would do the same as well. I dont care if they are young kids or people in their 80s, men or women, rich or poor, what ever religion or color they are. If they wanna rob someone they deserve it.

  17. Sincere on Wed, 14th Jul 2010 9:19 am 

    Guess what u dumb fuck it is about race becuz if he was black, or latino it would be murder and another thing if im not fucking with u how is it self defense Im not even on ur property not even minding u da right thing is let da pigs deal with it its they problem and just materialist shyt dis brothers died over something dat could be replace I would rather see them locked up then killed.

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